Descusión:François Asselineau
Último comentario: hace 9 años por Azurfrog en el tema Cross wiki spamming
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Hello,
My apologies for having to write here in English
The corresponding French article is currently being discussed for deletion, after having been deleted by a very strong majority two years ago.
The key points of this discussion are :
- there exist now some secondary sources, and some of them focus on him, such as the article in Marianne (typically), and now On n'est pas couché on France 2 (10 days ago), with these comments;
- however, independant sources of good standing are still rare. So, because François Asselineau has a cyber activist team (about 100 people, headed by Marvin Leroy), spamming and non neutral additions keep coming in large numbers, and even on the French Wikipédia, we fear not to be able to contain it to maintain a balanced article.
The cross wiki spamming - with over 90 stubs created by François Asselineau's Internet activists (a lot of which have now been deleted) - is proof of this Internet activism; hence the fear that neutral, balanced articles will be extremely difficult to maintain; even the English article is strongly biased, with favorable facts blown out of all proportion, and negative points "forgotten".
So, the current discussion on the French "deletion page" (AfD) centers on this : are the existing sources strong enough to resist spamming and non neutral additions?
For the time being, a majority believe the notability of François Asselineau is not enough to take the risk.
Best regards. --Azurfrog (discusión) 08:10 4 oct 2014 (UTC)
- From my point of view this article has no interest for us. It has only two lines and noone has done the infobox. It has no connexion to other articles and we don't write about this kind of topics. If there is problems we can decide to erase it. We don't want spend time on this article or related discusions because we prefer to spend time in other topics.--EBRO (discusión) 09:51 4 oct 2014 (UTC)
- By the way, the link to Union pour un Mouvement Populaire was a joke! UMP has nothing to do with Asselineau, and I suspect he created a very small party to generate some confusion to get better coverage. —Azurfrog (discusión) 14:28 4 oct 2014 (UTC)
- I just corrected what appeared to be a blatant hoax: fr:Union pour un Mouvement Populaire is one of the three major parties in France, and has absolutely nothing to do with François Asselineau. But was it a hoax, a huge mistake, or a deliberate lie? --Azurfrog (discusión) 20:02 4 oct 2014 (UTC)
- By the way, the link to Union pour un Mouvement Populaire was a joke! UMP has nothing to do with Asselineau, and I suspect he created a very small party to generate some confusion to get better coverage. —Azurfrog (discusión) 14:28 4 oct 2014 (UTC)
- From my point of view this article has no interest for us. It has only two lines and noone has done the infobox. It has no connexion to other articles and we don't write about this kind of topics. If there is problems we can decide to erase it. We don't want spend time on this article or related discusions because we prefer to spend time in other topics.--EBRO (discusión) 09:51 4 oct 2014 (UTC)